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this is fantasy you have washington elite chanting fiscal cliff, fiscal cliff, hoping to convince republicans to do something stupid because the alternative would be going off the fiscal cliff. it is and of people, the very people trying to bully us now. all you have to say is let's break it into 12, 15 foothills, no cliffs. now one by one, solve each of the smaller problems until we get to some solutions. you don't have to panic over this i want to confess something. what i outlined for you, i copied from tip o'neil. when he was faced with ronald reagan in 1981, he knew he couldn't beat him in head-to-head negotiating but thought he could preserve the democratic party and welfare state in a long battle of attrition. o'neil who had a ran senate, republican president, used the power of house over and over again to slow the momentum. i think republicans got to understand they are not going to get any good deal from barack obama. he has contempt for them. he shows that on a regular basis. he's a hard-line left winger. they've got to think through the american people have chosen him he's going to
are with the progress or lack thereof on the fiscal cliff in washington. connell: peter barnes has been covering it all from capitol hill. the attorney said i am here trying to resolve this. it is serious business. he would hope the white house would get serious as well. peter: no substantive progress in the last couple weeks in the discussions with the white house and then kind of taking a slap your at the president. he said this is a moment for adult leadership. the white house does have to get serious on spending cuts and entitlement reform. the republicans are trying to shift the discussion in this debate over to the spending that side. the entitlement reform side. the president hammering them on the tax side of it. especially spending, extending the bush tax cuts for the middle class. connell: are you noticing a difference? is that the way it is shaping up today that the democrats are more optimistic than the republicans because republicans do not think they are getting what they are wanting? >> i watch these press conferences and publii events and sometimes i do not take them as seriously as mayb
. >> next, a look at tax loopholes and deductions cut in the fiscal cliff negotiations. from "washington journal," it is 10 minutes. the >> host: looking at the fiscal cliff we turn our attention to deductions and tax loopholes. some of them are potentially on the chopping block. congress and white house negotiate how to move forward. joining us to talk about this from "the wall street journal" is john mccann in. let's start out with the basics. what are loopholes and deductions? we hear those words a lot, but what are they? >> guest: loopholes are in the eye of the beholder. who pulls our tax breaks of all different sorts and what do you make a particular loophole or not depends on where you said i think. there are lots of loopholes that are deductions are deductions are the ones that most people are most familiar with. the big itemize deductions are things like a home mortgage interest deduction. there is a deduction for state and local taxes is very important. the deduction for charitable contributions is real important. there's all kinds of other breaks that exist in a tax code that
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after discouraging words from washington on the state of the fiscal cliff. this time it was house speaker boehner speaking with reporters after meeting with treasury secretary tim geithner. eamon javers is in washington with the latest. eamon, the sentiment down here is these guys should stop talking and start crafting a deal. >> reporter: that's the sentiment here in the hallways of capitol hill as well, sue. i can tell you that. we are starting to get a little more clarity on what's going on here today. i just had the chance just a few moments ago to button-hole senator harry reid here in the hallway, asking him a very specific question. i said did treasury secretary tim geithner come up here with a new specific offer for republicans? is that what he laid down on the table for speaker john boehner today? reid told me -- no, there was no specific offer here today from geithner to the republican side. he said that the president of the united states made the democrats' over two weeks ago and there's been no new specific offer since then. i think that explains a little bit of why we
with the fear of falling off, know what, the fiscal cliff. if washington does a deal, small businesses may feel brightner the next survey. but for now the uncertainty means owners, who are the biggest drivers in employment, are less likely to hire more workers or invest in growth. one in five said they will cut their workforce the next twelve months. that's the highest since the survey began ten years ago. one in three predict they will slash capital spending the next year too. here is how gallop summed it up. survey suggests the u.s. economy is extremely fragile and possibly susceptible to another recession. we will take a look at what exactly the fiscal cliff means to small business owners and what they can do to prevent any damage. they could be among the hardest hit if we don't get a deal. shannon, back to you. >> so many consequences. all right. thank you, brenda. we asked, you answered. up next, your time to chime in on today's twitter question. and a must-see kicker video you do not want to miss. try running four.ning a restaurant is hard, fortunately we've got ink. it gives us 5x the re
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of washington, if we go over the fiscal cliff by december 31, is there a big opportunity for this market to sell off? it doesn't seem like it's priced in that we go over. >> maria, if we go over the cliff, sure, we're going to have a reactionary selloff. when you look at the fed now talking about qe-4, economic statistics are getting better, not worse. europe is slow e lily resolving issues. >> that reverses in the first quarter if we go over the cliff. >> it depends how we go over. if we go over for a couple days and they get a deal, it's fine. if this thing really breaks down, sure, that's not priced in. i don't think that's where we're going. >> you're from california, correct? >> i live there, yes. >> doesn't make you a bad person. >> i'm from buffalo too. >> it explains why he's stylish, right? well, i live in california. we voted to raise income taxes and sales taxes. california is, what, one-seventh of the u.s. economy. >> jerry browne's miracle. >> i'm going to get a bill as well as every other californian asking for money. >> what is your point? >> that will have a negative impact on th
on how you could go about getting a debt deal in washington. up next, from burritos to the fiscal cliff, a little food for thought in our american made series. we have the president of moe's southwest grill. "squawk box" is back right after this. >>> checking the futures now, they will probably see a bit of an opening move higher. see if anyone talks. today more on what's moving the markets this morning frin a coue of minutes. peter is very quick on the gun, as you can see. i think i saw it from peter that mitch mcconnell was laughing yesterday and i saw boehner. comes out immediately. at the end of the week he goes back and says this is what was good about the week this is what was bad. we will get the comments firsthand. >> are american made company today is sizzle. 2012. pretty spicy profits. paul davaco, president of moe's southwest grill joins us. good morning, paul. >> good morning. how are you? >> let's talk about how -- how is business and what is -- how business is at your franchise and your company telling us about the health of the consumer? >> the business today could not be
be apple. >>> to washington now. the soap opera we call the fiscal cliff. before we get to our chief washington john harwood and the president is meeting with another grouch ceos, i need to start with eamon javers on capitol hill where lawmakers are skipping down early for a long weekend. eamon, wasn't thanksgiving just a couple weeks ago? >> it was. let me check michael ichaey cal. you see rank and file members of congress leaving the capitol. they are done for the week. they're headed back loam to their hometown districts. a lot of folks focused on this negotiation right now but the reality is that the negotiations are taking place among just a very few, very high level people. i was talking to a few rank and file members yesterday who said they were frustrated there is not a whole lot for them to do, they are just sitting around here waiting for some break-through in these negotiations. they want something to do on the floor, in their offices and there is not much for them to sink their teeth into. now they're going into their district. leadership is going to stay here and continu
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the fiscal cliff? do you think we will go over it? what does it mean? we get taxes, will be cut. no, taxes will go up. spend willing be cut. everyone wants, almost everybody wants spending to be cut. what do you think will happen? >> let's look at wall street. what might happen to the 401(k)s or the stocks. last week, boehner said nothing is happening and stocks would plummet. somebody else would say something going on behind the scenes and stocks go up. this is tremendous volatility. this time of year we get santa claus rally, the stocks will rally until the end of the year. but if the taxes go on, on capital gains and dividends, people will start to sell now to have the better, more preferential tax treatment than afterwards. we may see selling in first of the year. >> eric: long-term, think long-term. once we get past that. what will the effect be? what if taxes on dividends go up? >> this is incredible disincentive. especially on the capital gains. to take the risk of investing. when you say long-term, long-term, if you don't need the money you invest in stock market. if you need it in
. stocks moving lower as investors remain focused on washington and the fiscal cliff negotiation. right now the dow is near the lows of the session, off by 52 points. >>> fifth and pacific named former kenneth cole cole chief executive paul blum to lead the juicy couture brand. he takes over as ceo effective immediately. the company in october lowered the full-year forecast and blamed the short fall on sagging sales at juicy. selling its computers is services to equifax for a billion dollars in cash. csc faced several challenges over the past year including a dispute over its contract to provide electronic patient records for britain's national health service. that is the latest from the fox business network, giving you the power to prosper lori: in congress we trust? not so much. new "gallup poll" shows half of americans, 54% have a low or very low opinion of congressional honesty and ethics. believe it are not that is i am prochlt from last year when 64% of the americans gave them low marks. lou dobbs is here. only job seen more untrustworthy was car salesman and i think that is insult to
on what's happening with the fiscal cliff out of washington, the bank of england leaving its interest rate unchanged. at this point we're a few weeks away from the end of the year. money managers have an uncanny ability to drive stocks higher allowing them to claim quarterly performances that attract more money and higher fees. the practice is illegal but experts say that a sudden spike is a deliberate distortion of prices. as you'd expect window dressing is more common with thinly traded stocks and among the names of stocks appear to have been used as window companies, iridex, carver bancorps, altagen and legaga holdings. the next day the stock gives back some percentage of the gains, at least 3%. >>> the parade of companies announcing dividend changes continues because of all the uncertainty surrounding the fiscal cliff. cme group declared an annual variable dividend of $1.30 a share and accelerating the timing into the current quarter.'s sporting goods is announcing a cash dividend of $2 a share and says cfo tim coleman is retiring. >>> zynga -- i like to say that, zynga is filing prepa
today, you know, what's going on in washington and, you know, with this fiscal cliff and, you know, what the impact will be of it. >> well, it's an important point. how is the project funded? where did you source the funding for the development? >> that's one of today's challenges. you don't get to the same costs you would typically get them. it requires more equity and piecing together the banks to put together a loan of the size needed for this. probably our greatest challenge would be -- because we're looking to build. this is only 1,700,000 square feet, in the first phase 6 1/2 million, where's the rest of the capacity to come from for the construction loans that we need? >> the banks were the first source? >> yeah. >> and we're looking at other sources going forward that are kind of unconventional. you have to think outside the box. >> oh, definitely. >> in order to do a job like this today. >> what kind of unconventional sources? >> well, you have a lot of these public reits, you know, that are looking for greater yields, so it's the whole period, i don't know how you do constructi
that all eyes in the fiscal cliff spinoff are now turn on the white house. to take all of this up tonight, the politics and policy in the games being played by both sides in washington dc, we will be joined by richard shelby, the ranking republican of the banking committee. he joins us. congressman devin nunes, chairman of the ways and means committee to tell us what kind of effor it will take and who will be blamed for failure to stop these tax hikes and trillion dollar budget cuts. bradley graham is among our guests tonight. here are the details on exctly what secretary geithner has proposed on behalf of the presidento avoid the fiscal cliff. according to the republicans in that meeting, the offer includes $1.6 trillion in new revenue. that is higher taxes, raising tax rates, and taxes on investment income. at least $50 million in new stimul spending in the next fiscal year alone. mind you, of course, the repubcans looking for spending ts as an offset to their agreement to raise taxes. the only spending cuts in the plan come from cutting medicare and other programs by 400 billion over t
sector. investors will be watching those fiscal cliff negotiations in washington today. plus, we will get reports on u.s. auto sales. manufacturing and construction spending. big news this week, of course, the november jobs report for the government, that will come out on friday. soledad, back to you. >> alina, thank you. the story that's going to affect all of our wallets, our retirement, our benefits, the economy, if, in fact, we do go over the fiscal cliff, taxes will go up, major spending cuts will kick in. this weekend republican south carolina congressman seth graham said he thinks that we're going to go off the fiscal cliff in fact and he said this, i think we're going to go over the cliff, it seems to me that they made a political calculation. this offer doesn't remotely deal with entitlement reform in a way to save medicare, medicaid and social security from imminent bankruptcy. senator richard blumenthal is a democrat from the state of connecticut. he joins us this morning. >> good to see you. >> you heard lindsey graham saying he thinks we're going off the cliff. you think that
. the president makes an offer to avoid the fiscal cliff. lso where are the cuts? we are live in washington with the details. look at that guy. a construction worker walks in a convenience store checks his number and walks out perhaps a multimillionaire. we'll tell it to you straight away. >> officer and a gentleman. you will hear from the cop who spent his hard earned cash to buy a pair of socks and shoes. he pet them on him. "fox and friends" starts right now. ♪ ♪ ho, ho hompt >> indeed. rick it is not christmas time here in new york city until rick descends down one of the tallest buildings in connecticut and there he is. screen left from last year screen right. when he bumped into the building. good morning to you rick. >> some traditions like fruit cake that shouldn't happen . maybe it is one of those tradition. you do it once and this is a building here. give you a shot from the top going down. it gets a little dark there. it gives you an individual. tan ford downtown height lights and they start it off by santa going over this with elvescan on sunday night. last couple of years w
saw a headline going by that the markets remain tethered to the fiscal cliff talks. certainly we're seeing market reaction to each headline out of washington but also these earnings. let's talk about some of these names here, looking particularly at kroger the large supermarket company. revenues beat the street. i just did a long term search, it is a multiyear high actually for kroger which is up more than 4% so to highest levels we've seen since 2009. they also raised their full-year earnings forecast. they have seen consumers boosting their purchases and that is because food prices have actually come down some. that is some good news there for kroger. as far as la-z-boy, their shares have been under some pressure. their results for the third quarter missed analysts expectations. they have been working on marketing campaigns. they do think that is delivering strong results. think reinstated quarterly dividend. that is good news since they haven't done so since 2008. they're underpressure after missing the numbers, down 12%. back to you. melissa: nicole, thanks so much. oil on tr
for signs of progress, jon. jon: we are, indeed. mike emanuel, keeping an eye on the fiscal cliff negotiations for us there in washington. thanks, mike. jenna: from capitol hill to the white house now, and right now the president is getting ready to host governor mitt romney for lunch. the former rivals will be meeting behind closed doors in a private white house dining room. reporters were not invited. jon: oh, gee. jenna: left off that invitation list. jay carney says there's no formal agenda, and we don't know the menu as well. very curious ability what they're serving today n. his victory speech, president obama said he was looking forward to sitting down with governor romney and talking about ways they can move together to move the -- they can work together to move the country forward. he will also meet with his former running mate, congressman paul ryan. jon: vice president joe biden today calling for a middle class tax cut while getting in some christmas shopping as well. mr. biden visited the first costco store to open in washington. we won't tell you what he bought to put
bit. republican leaders say though are nowhere near on negotiations to avoid the fiscal cliff. >> and protest in tahrir square as anger continues to grow against egyptian president mohammed morsi. we'll have a live report. >> new information on what may have caused a freight train carrying dangerous chemicals to derail in new jersey. >> heather: the clock is winding down to a potential economic disaster. there has been a lot of talk apparently nothing to show for it. democrats and republicans blaming each other nor the standoff with your tax bill riding on the out come. unless an agreement is reached by the end of the month, bush-era tax cuts will expire triggering a rise in taxes by an average of 5%. that means a middle-class family will pay $2,000 more in taxes and married couples would be hurt because of marriage penalty. it doesn't include the budget consequences. $55 billion would be cut from the pentagon and another $55 billion slashed from domestic programs. an estimated 2 million jobs could be lost pushing the economy back into a recession adding to the misery to those
's go to washington. john boehner is reswrekting the president's michelle proposal involving the fiscal cliff. let's lisp in. >> the president in the coming days. during the campaign the president pledged to american people that he would seek a balanced approach to addressing the debt with a combination of new revenues and spending cuts. the day after the election i said the republican majority would accept new revenue as part of a balanced approach that includes real spending cuts and reforms. now, the white house took three weeks to respond with any kind of a proposal, and much to my disappointment, it wasn't a serious one. still, i'm willing to move forward in good faith. our original framework still stands. instead of raising tax rates, we can produce similar amount of revenue, reforming the tax code to close loopholes and lower tax rates. it's far better for the economy when the american people paver on that approach by 2-1. they favor it eep more when we can also show them that real spending cuts will, in fact, reduce the deficit. now, there have been many conversations over the l
, what's changed in washington? where is the room for real bipartisan to avert this fiscal cliff? does it exist? >> i think it does. i think we understand that this is about our country first. and it really is a time we need to put politics aside, and it's going to be painful. none of us are going to get the deal that we exactly want. but we have to keep talking to one another. and bob and i have talked this week. i'm talking every day with my republican colleagues. what has to happen, though, there has to be a realization that if we do nothing, the republicans are going to have to live with the fact that they are willing to stop a deal all over a tax rate for the top 2% of this country. and, frankly, i'm really hopeful that doesn't happen. and i know bob feels the same way. >> senator, lindsey graham has said in this past week, quote, no republican will vote for higher tax rates. will you? >> well, the negotiations are between the president and speaker boehner. and they will get into the details of that. i think you know i've laid out a plan that has $1 trillion in revenues, coupled w
increases and spending cuts that people here in washington call the fiscal cliff. most house members are going home today with only 27 days to make a deal. two house leaders who are not going home are with me in the situation room. they're working very hard to avoid the fiscal cliff. thanks so much for coming in. for so long, republicans wanted to extend the bush tax cuts forever, now for 98% of the american people, the democrats are saying, we're ready. we've given up, we'll let you have those bush tax cuts for as long as possible. let's just resolve that, we'll move on to some of the tougher issues later. let's make sure that 98% of the american families have these lower tax rates into next year. why not give that? >> the debate over those top two pshsz, is really a strong man debate. what we need is tax reform in america. we need a simpler less complicated tax code. >> i agree with you. we need a tax reform. why not resolve this one issue, make sure taxes don't increase for 98% of the americans, 100% of americans for their first $250,000 a year. let them have that, and then move o
be involved in negotiations over the fiscal cliff. this is 50 minutes. host: we turn our attention to deductions and tax loopholes. some are potentially on the chopping block. joining us is john mckinnon from "the wall street journal." what are loopholes and deductions? guest: loopholes or tax breaks of all different sorts. whether you like a loophole depends where you sit. deductions are the ones most people are most familiar with. the big itemized deductions are the home mortgage interest deduction. the deduction for charitable contributions is important. there are all kinds of other breaks. there are some that are big that people may not be aware of. the health care that we get a work represents a big source of income to a lot of people. it doesn't count as income on your taxes. that is a giant break in itself and known as an exemption. there are other breaks that exist. the earned income tax credit goes to the working poor. then folks with children get a child credit that is a lucrative credit, worth $1,000 per child right now. congress loves tax breaks. host: is there a differ
officials would behave like spoiled children in the fiscal cliff discussions. only 28% said they would behave like adults. tonight signs that maybe some adult behavior might be prevail and a compromise might be reached. jessica yellen joins us, dana bash and david gergen. what's the latest? >> reporter: they are a long way from a deal, but late today speaker boehner and president obama did speak to one another on the phone. now, this is an important development because it's the first time they've talked in a week about the fiscal cliff. i am told, though, that there was no real progress in negotiations. in this sense there was no breakthrough on that central point of tax rates. as you know, president obama insists there is no deal unless the gop agrees to raise rates on the top 2% of earners. the gop says that's a nonstarter and the two men have not moved from that basic position. now, all of this quomz comes at the same time treasury secretary geithner also said for the first time the administration would be willing to go over the fiscal cliff if the gop does not agree to raise those
fiscal cliff are now gone. >>shepard: are we supposed to believe all the sources who tell us that there is real progress behind-the-scenes or not? >>reporter: depends who you listen to. the republican leader in the united states senate, mcconnell said geithner's visit was a step backward. sources say he was talking about raising taxes $1.6 trillion and they say that is not reality. that is not going to pass the senate or the house >>shepard: the syrian government that is killing its people by the tens of thousands has shut down the internet across the country according to two u.s. based internet monitoring companies. activists confirm the blackout to the associated press and the syrian government claims we didn't do it, no, the terrorists shut down the intent. fighting an the main syrian airport near damascus sparked airlines to top flights into the syrian capital. activists reported the syrian civil war has led to the death of 40,000 people. conor is there in the middle east newsroom. >>reporter: many of those who is died have died because the syrian air force bombed and kil
with talks to avoid the fiscal cliff deadlock, and everyone saying the other side is to blame, pressure secretary geithner scheduled a ground of interviews. then friday afternoon, speaker boehner's office called to say he wanted to come on fox news sunday to tell his side of the story. you will hear from bain -- john bainner a few minutes. first my conversation with tim geithner about the lack of progress in steering away from the cliff. >> secretary geithner, welcome back to fox news sunday. >> nice to see you, chris. >> i spoke with house speaker boehner before you came over here. he said when you presented your plan to him on thursday he said, "you can't be serious" and mitch mcconnell, the republican leader, said he burst into laughter. >> chris, they are in kind of a tough position now. it's obviously a little hard for them now and they are trying to figure out where they go next. we might need to give them a little bit of time to figure out where they go next. but what we did, we laid out a very detailed, carefully-designed set of spending, savings and tax changes to help put us b
had quite a day around here, friday. with talks to avoid the fiscal cliff deadlock and everyone saying, the other side is to blame, treasury secretary geithner scheduled a round of interviews, then, friday afternoon, speaker boehner's office called to say he wanted to come on fox news sunday, to tell his side of the story. you'll hear from boehner in a few minutes, but first here's my conversation with tim geithner about the lack of progress in steering away from that cliff. >> chris: secretary geithner, welcome back to fox news sunday. >> nice to see you, chris. >> chris: i spoke with house speaker boehner just before i came over here and he says when you present your plan to him on thursday, he said you can't be serious, and, mitch mcconnell, the senate republican leader said he burst into laughter. >> they are in a tough position now and it will be -- obviously hard for them now and they are trying to figure out where they go next and we might need to give them time to figure that out, but what we did is, what you expect from us, we laid out a very detailed, carefully designed set o
geithner's presentation of the white house proposal to avoid the fiscal cliff earlier in week "nonserious." >> i was flabbergasted. i lookedded a him like you can't be serious. i've just never seen anything like it. you know we have seven weeks between election day and the end of the year. three of those weeks have been wasted with this nonsense. >> reporter: here is what has the speaker flabbergasted. the white house would like to raise tax rates on top earners to where they were in the clinton administration, 39.6%. they would also like to raise $1.6 trillion with new taxes over the next decade, while cutting about $400 billion through entitlement reform. although, those cuts are not specific and not guaranteed. but the treasury secretary says the administration's plan is fiscally responsible and would prevent taxes from going up on 98% of americans. >> we think that is a very good set of proposals. we think it's good for the economy. if they have different suggestions they want to go further in some areas, then they should lay odds with us. >> reporter: secretary geithner said he canno
a deal. you've got 98% agreement on taxes. take that deal. don't go over the fiscal cliff. live to find another deal on a grand bargain. tax reform, entitlement. >> you really think democrats, they get that tax increase, that they're going to come and give spending cuts late sner. >> i think there are ways you can try to make it. eric's made a great point historically that things like ruddman, the spending cuts never end up happening. everyone who's realistic at the table recognizes you've got to have a balanced plan. serious cuts and revenue increases. you can't -- >> we've had 18 debt and deficit commissions since '81. the cuts never came. >> cynicism isn't a plan though, eric. we need to put forward a plan. can't just keep saying they're screwing it up. >> if you don't put cuts in though with tax increase, you've got a problem because it's easy to raise taxes on a few people. most people will not support cuts that hurt them. >> you've got to have entitlement reform. >> you can actually lower rates, close loopholes and raise revenue. >> all right. thanks to both. appreciate it. more t
. if the fiscal cliff hits and nothing changes. as you go and look at the first group of folks here, talk about people who make very little money, up to $20,000 or $20,000 to $40,000. this yellow part represents the current amount of taxes folks are paying out there. if the fiscal cliff hits and nothing changes, this group would pay about $400 more. this group down here would pay about $1,200 more. that doesn't seem like a whether or not he will lot of money, but against that kind of income it's pretty big. move to the next category. if you go to $40,000 to $64,000 in income or $64,000 to $108,000, you see the green area's much bigger. that's because there are a lot of taxpayers like this. and they're paying a fairly sizable amount. but if they're out there and the fiscal cliff goes all the way through and nothing stops it, look what's going to happen. almost $2,000 more for this group. that's what you would have to pay if you're in that group. and look down here at the other one down here, $64,000 to $108,000, $3,500 more on that. and as you move up it gets even more so. go to this group, peop
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